tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post7529323393231259780..comments2023-09-13T13:47:47.106+01:00Comments on The Changing Attitude Blog: Let’s pretend - dishonesty and corruption amongst closeted conservative Anglican catholicsAlexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09163737925142519555noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-83964391428422718962010-06-06T16:01:56.160+01:002010-06-06T16:01:56.160+01:00Colin is 100% spot on. As an out gay man who is al...Colin is 100% spot on. As an out gay man who is also ordained I personally know many of those priests in Forward in Faith who are gay, who have partners. I just do not know how they or their partners live with themselves - but they do and in doing so bear false witness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-22590085495266111902010-04-07T12:36:46.714+01:002010-04-07T12:36:46.714+01:00Anonymous, you express abusive ideas in abusive wa...Anonymous, you express abusive ideas in abusive ways. You are not writing in a way that I recognise as Christian. I, a gay Christian, am more concerned about the Gospel than myself. I am more preoccupied with what I do at the altar, with the love of God and with the mission and ministry of the church that with what I do in bed. I call it profoundly authentic Christianity. If I may say so, you seem to be obsessively concerned (to the point of sickness) with what people do in bed.Colin Cowardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00030093527945687306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-58603177450893369272010-04-07T12:23:45.584+01:002010-04-07T12:23:45.584+01:00Oh dear oh dear - how wanton and scurrilous this r...Oh dear oh dear - how wanton and scurrilous this rant is! When you are more concerned about yourself than the Gospel; and pre-occupied with what you do in bed than what you do at the Altar, you can call it many things, but Christianity is not one of them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-71347178995559082902009-10-29T18:14:26.491+00:002009-10-29T18:14:26.491+00:00I discussed this with Eric Kemp before he retired....I discussed this with Eric Kemp before he retired. He was not in the least naive, and was fully aware of who was in the Diocese, and perfectly happy for them to be there. I mention this because it is to his credit rather than otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-80098057473275624382009-10-29T17:59:13.232+00:002009-10-29T17:59:13.232+00:00Just a an aside: what is it about churches and cle...Just a an aside: what is it about churches and clergy that makes gays want to be clergy?Brad Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17381562723928616425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-61194701333043078942009-10-26T15:02:39.010+00:002009-10-26T15:02:39.010+00:00Father Geoff Farrow shares inside information that...Father Geoff Farrow shares inside information that blows PRETEND out of the land of RC fakery!<br /><br />http://fathergeofffarrow.blogspot.com/2009/10/us-catholic-bishops-teach-americans.html<br /><br />¨YES, WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT OF CIVIL MARRIAGE, BUT IT IS FAR MORE THAN THAT. WE ARE ALSO FIGHTING SO THAT THE NEXT GENERATION DOES NOT HAVE TO GROW UP IN SHAME AND LIVE IN FEAR.¨ FJF<br /><br />True, we´ve always been *here* and we´re not going anywhere! LRLeonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16667415590825321701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-24849557828775513932009-10-26T02:45:20.384+00:002009-10-26T02:45:20.384+00:00My observation is that the Romo-Catholics play the...My observation is that the Romo-Catholics play the very same game, in spades. Like attracts like you know. But, let's not spoil the fun; let's pretend instead.brimcmikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-35080961136481451042009-10-25T20:27:15.625+00:002009-10-25T20:27:15.625+00:00"Let's pretend" - it is a game too m..."Let's pretend" - it is a game too many people in the Church of England are happy to play.I don't really agree with the "don't ask, don't tell" approach, even when it is done with benevolent intentions, not only because it is dishonest but also because it gives the message that to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender is, of itself, shameful and too taboo to be spoken of in any circumstances.<br /><br />A fantastic piece, Colin.Suemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128736092253293640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-55627062060802765972009-10-25T20:06:39.689+00:002009-10-25T20:06:39.689+00:00In my opinion peace is finally coming to the Angli...In my opinion peace is finally coming to the Anglican Communion. The POPE has offered them what they are seeking for and I hope they depart in peace. What are they still waiting forte?Mr Speakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09738237466030341175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-36274870286701787842009-10-25T17:32:45.885+00:002009-10-25T17:32:45.885+00:00¨Come with your partners, as long as you are faith...¨Come with your partners, as long as you are faithful to them and honest about yourself.¨ CC+<br /><br />Fair enough, let there be TRUTH (that´s what we demand from everyone else when seeking ¨equality and I think it´s the proper standard if we are to be taken seriously...ever). STILL, we ALL know that self-honesty is the most private/anonymous and demanding of all ¨inside, spiritual, jobs¨...what you ¨see¨ isn´t always what you get even with good, and proper, intentions (intentions are wonderful and I believe them to be honorable quests even when not always realized as one intended or hoped ¨to be¨)...you´ve illustrated some very VIVID examples of illusions at Church (no doubt those games of ¨pretend¨ are considered to be manufactured for ¨our own good¨).Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16667415590825321701noreply@blogger.com