tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post5994923002407153426..comments2023-09-13T13:47:47.106+01:00Comments on The Changing Attitude Blog: Conservative Christian desperation 2: In the UKAlexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09163737925142519555noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-40959656462670047312010-01-02T14:11:40.032+00:002010-01-02T14:11:40.032+00:00Chloe, I'm glad that you are putting the focus...Chloe, I'm glad that you are putting the focus on statistical information. It is my mission to question the non-statistical (and often nothing-but-ideological) approach that so often passes for serious thought. I'd be immensely grateful for the Stonewall figures you refer to. Your last comment on the 'minority' also needs statistical backing. We cetrtainly should not say 'I think' this or that, unless we are prepared to put the figures on the table. Great that you are serious about getting at the truth. CSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-46263045234222904572009-12-30T10:02:59.734+00:002009-12-30T10:02:59.734+00:00Christopher, I'm sure Colin can speak for hims...Christopher, I'm sure Colin can speak for himself, but I think you miss the point. Colin's not arguing that a majority of Christians would identify themselves as liberal. He's arguing that most Christians do not take the hard-line anti-gay approach that the Christian Institute favours. This includes most evangelicals and pentecostals. (I could cite, for instance, research regularly carried out on behalf of Stonewall which shows that people under 40 who regularly attend church are *more* likely to be accepting of gay people and their rights than those who don't attend church).<br /><br />Further, the CI represents itself hubristically as speaking for Christians in general, which it most certainly does not. I think Colin is entirely right to point out that its view is shared only by a minority of Christians in this country.Chloenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8443447842611499359.post-90134574655818856282009-12-24T12:03:33.709+00:002009-12-24T12:03:33.709+00:00Colin-
People can assert, without backing statisti...Colin-<br />People can assert, without backing statistics, that this or that is 'a small minority' or 'a large majority' till the cows come home. It very likely is a small minority of the people that people on your side of the fence speak to, which is why the fence ought not to be there - that would make people better informed and take a more rounded comprehensive view.<br /><br />Every survey known to me shows that within the one denomination you belong to (leaving aside the many others) evangelicals are the largest and least-shrinking party. Of other groups, pentecostals and charismatics are the largest-growing. These findings are re-confirmed repeatedly and make me wonder where your 'small minority' assertion comes from. Also (though I am no lover at all of the way the press write what their readers apparently want to hear: this shows no integrity) the Daily Mail clearly has a large audience and good sales figures.<br /><br />Minority and majority are irrelevant. The minority is not always wrong, nr the mmajority always right. Since you agree with this point, I do not understand why you find it relevant to refer to minorities at all, let alone 'minorities' for which no statistics are given.<br /><br />best wishes, Christopher ShellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com